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汉化 chinese translation

blin Join Date: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

Hi, guys!

We have a situation here. In my opinion, we should let AXAMDEEP do ALL the chinese translation. He's been doing it for years already. What is going on now there is just aweful. It seems that people involved in translation even havent played the game yet and their versions of text are going "+".

It is a serious deal.

Let's discuss chinese translation here.

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• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  somebody make some stupid translations, for example, Hello -> Get Out(in chinese), i fear that this would ruin the whole chinese translation of NS2.
  just as a Chinese saying goes, a rat's droppings can spoil a whole cauldron of soup.
  Not me stingy, just im a NS mania fans since 2003 :)

• blin Join Date: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

  Dont worry, you will be responsible for the last approval of strings.

  "We can make him the one that approves the strings, but this will be done later, don't worry about the scores if there's something funny going on as it always requires human intervention." - Mendasp.

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  有大å"¥è¿™å¥è¯æˆ'å°±æ"¾å¿ƒäº†

• Mendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884 Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer

  I have a question for this project in particular. The fonts do not support chinese characters (in fact they're missing a couple of unicode ones), are you using a custom font or something like this or does nothing display?

  I just made you admin, so you can approve strings, although I think, sadly, the chinese characters won't be supported by 1.0.

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  i would also love to help out with the translation, been translating a lot these few days.
  axamdeep, can you please approve the strings that don't need translating at all? So people can stop trying to tranlate those? (like MAC,ARC babblers e.t.c)

  edit: I would love to help out if I have admin rights. But I guess it'd be quite a risk since I "joined" the forum yesterday? Been a loyal fan since NS1 and I have been paying close attension to NS2 developement process. not a native speaker per say, but my native language is chinese ( traditional) and the 2 languages is VERY translatable. Plus I am also a programmer so I suppose that would be a plus since I actually knows how Strings, config filies and encoding works?

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=1955385:date=Jul 31 2012, 11:44 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Jul 31 2012, 11:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1955385"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i would also love to help out with the translation, been translating a lot these few days.
  axamdeep, can you please approve the strings that don't need translating at all? So people can stop trying to tranlate those? (like MAC,ARC babblers e.t.c)

  edit: I would love to help out if I have admin rights. But I guess it'd be quite a risk since I "joined" the forum yesterday? Been a loyal fan since NS1 and I have been paying close attension to NS2 developement process. not a native speaker per say, but my native language is chinese ( traditional) and the 2 languages is VERY translatable. Plus I am also a programmer so I suppose that would be a plus since I actually knows how Strings, config filies and encoding works?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  你好，实话说æˆ'不æ‰"算看你的这行英文是因为既然你的资料 显 示你FROM HONG KONG，
  å'±ä»¬å®Œå…¨å¯ä»¥ä½¿ç"¨ä¸­æ–‡äº¤æµï¼Œä¸­å›½äººå'Œä¸­å›½äººè¯´è‹±è¯­ï¼Œ 显 çš„ 有些见外了

  另外æˆ'æ‰"ç®—å'官方提议加一个 繁ä½"中文 的项目进去，这样更合适一些。

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=1955307:date=Jul 31 2012, 05:08 PM:name=Mendasp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mendasp @ Jul 31 2012, 05:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1955307"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have a question for this project in particular. The fonts do not support chinese characters (in fact they're missing a couple of unicode ones), are you using a custom font or something like this or does nothing display?

  I just made you admin, so you can approve strings, although I think, sadly, the chinese characters won't be supported by 1.0.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

  yeah, i always edit related .lua file to change fonts and font size for display chinese fonts (such as change "..\AgencyFB.fnt" to "Arial"), after a new build release.
  now im trying to do something with display of custom font. but it failed, even if i made a correct .png+.fnt file, and i had tested it in other game and it's ok. but it cannot display the unicode characters in ns2, i have no idea about this.

• blin Join Date: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

  同意！

  to Mendasp:

  can you please add Chinese (Traditional)?

  we have people from HK and Taiwan here too, let them do the translation themselves.

• Mendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884 Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer

  Done, any suggestions for people that can approve them?

• blin Join Date: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

  is it possible to change this thread's name to 汉化（简ä½"） chinese translation (simplified) ?

  as for a recommendation for HK or taiwanese players - not yet, lets first see how they will proceed with the work.

  of course they can just use axamdeep's version (I hope he wont disagree) (just with traditional characters), but as expirience shows they prefer to use their own interpretations, which are ok too.

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  指引不是说，不要翻è¯'非描述性建ç­'物名称？(armory ,command station e.t.c.)
  不是想怀ç–'你，只是好奇，想知é"背后的原å›
  æˆ'知é"它会在相同的语言听起来好了很多，但开å'者也许有ä»
  –们的理ç"±ï¼Ÿ

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=1955549:date=Aug 1 2012, 07:09 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 1 2012, 07:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1955549"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->指引不是说，不要翻è¯'非描述性建ç­'物名称？(armory ,command station e.t.c.)
  不是想怀ç–'你，只是好奇，想知é"背后的原å›
  æˆ'知é"它会在相同的语言听起来好了很多，但开å'者也许有ï¿
  ½
  �
  �们的理ç"±ï¼Ÿ<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  按理来说是不åº"该翻è¯'，举例来说，每个人都能æ‰"出hive这个 词，但并不是每个人都会在语音中说出"hive"这句英文，要考è™'到一些人看得懂但不会说，为了方便语
  音交流
  æˆ'决定在汉化中采ç"¨ä¸­è‹±ç»"合的方法，例如 “母巢(Hive)遭受æ"»å‡»â€ï¼Œ “军械åº"(Armory)建造完成”，这也是æˆ'在汉化NS1时遵循的原则
  。

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  嗯嗯,æˆ'个人一样是偏å'中+英,就是怕会对句子ç»"æž„æ"¹åŠ¨è¿‡å¤§.
  marine可以中+英,但alien那边有一大堆都是没法æ"¹çš„. 一边中+英, 一边英会不会很怪?

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  剛看到NO_COMM那字串 , 你要的是"æˆ'们需要有人来担任指挥官，谁能胜任"吧?
  那個40ç§'(?)出來一次,太長會一直æ"‹ä½çŽ©å®¶çš„视线,可以短一點嗎??

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=1955968:date=Aug 2 2012, 09:44 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 2 2012, 09:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1955968"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->剛看到NO_COMM那字串 , 你要的是"æˆ'们需要有人来担任指挥官，谁能胜任"吧?
  那個40ç§'(?)出來一次,太長會一直æ"‹ä½çŽ©å®¶çš„视线,可以短一點嗎??<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

  如果一句话你觉得太长挡着视线，试问如何把这句话（举例 ） ： “位于SUB ACCESS的资源å¡"正在遭受æ"»å‡»â€ 或“位于SERVER ROOM的母巢建造完成” 这样的长句提示缩短？这种提示也是经常会出现在游戏屏幕 æ­£ 上方的

  不会是以“SUBACCESS的矿被æ‰"” 这样来缩短吧？

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  SUB ACCESS - 资源å¡"遭受æ"»å‡»
  SERVER ROOM - 母巢建造完成

  可以吗?

  你的例子要表达的信息太多,长一点没办法, 但NO_COMM 那个明显加入了"感情", 把6个字可以说完的事拉长.
  你的例子都有一种"简洁,描述" 的风格, NO_COMM 那个格格不入(个人意见)
  那些跳出的信息都是要在战斗中引起人注意的, 太长就不好了.
  最后,其实那一些跳出的信息可以不ç"¨å®Œæ•´å¥å­,正常人玩4 5 次大è„'就习惯了,会自动过滤掉语法了, 说重点就好.
  个人认为心态不åº"是"都有æ¯"那个长的,没关系啦"而是"那个æ¯"这个短å–",可以把这个精减吗?"

  edit: 游戏类型不同,句子ç»"构都要不一样. RPG/Turn base strategy 可以长一点, FPS RTS 在游戏时会ç"¨åˆ°çš„就一定要短, FPS玩家没时间慢慢看的. 以明显的记号éš"开重要信息可以使人的眼睛快速聚焦到重点.

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=1956033:date=Aug 3 2012, 12:48 AM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 3 2012, 12:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1956033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->SUB ACCESS - 资源å¡"遭受æ"»å‡»
  SERVER ROOM - 母巢建造完成

  可以吗?

  你的例子要表达的信息太多,长一点没办法, 但NO_COMM 那个明显加入了"感情", 把6个字可以说完的事拉长.
  你的例子都有一种"简洁,描述" 的风格, NO_COMM 那个格格不入(个人意见)
  那些跳出的信息都是要在战斗中引起人注意的, 太长就不好了.
  最后,其实那一些跳出的信息可以不ç"¨å®Œæ•´å¥å­,正常人玩4 5 次大è„'就习惯了,会自动过滤掉语法了, 说重点就好.
  个人认为心态不åº"是"都有æ¯"那个长的,没关系啦"而是"那个æ¯"这个短å–",可以把这个精减吗?"

  edit: 游戏类型不同,句子ç»"构都要不一样. RPG/Turn base strategy 可以长一点, FPS RTS 在游戏时会ç"¨åˆ°çš„就一定要短, FPS玩家没时间慢慢看的. 以明显的记号éš"开重要信息可以使人的眼睛快速聚焦到重点.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

  没é"™ï¼Œè¦çš„就是催人去å½"COMM的效果，而不是句子长不长短不 短 的问题。你只要玩上100小时NS1或NS2，åº"该意识到战斗中缺å°'CO
  MM一般有几种情况 1.开局1-2分é'ŸåŽè¿˜æ²¡æœ‰äººåšCOMM 2.COMM出来干活，不幸中了埋伏，重ç"Ÿè¿‡ç¨‹ä¸­æ— äººæ‹…ä»»COMM 3.本局陆战队注定会è¾"/会赢，连COMM都端起武器参战了

  在NS1里 缺å°'COMM时是不会有这种提示的，这是引æ"Žæ²¡æœ‰çš„功能可以理 解 。 但 NS2里 缺å°'COMM时左上è§'的小地图下æ"¾ä¼šæç¤ºâ€œno commander” 也就是 没有指挥官，还是ç"¨çš„亮红色字ä½"，并连续闪烁，难é"不是 为 了提é†' 人 们 的注意吗
  。
  你想一想，就算没有banner提示（即屏幕正上方的文字提示） ， 只要不是色盲 ，肯定能通过minimap下方的闪烁红字来得知 å½"前没有指挥官，因为存在指挥官时字ä½"是黄色的， ç"±é»„变红，就像交通信号灯一样，很容æ˜"引起人们的注意。

  UWE 在 banner 中加入 no commander 的信息作为强调，是多此一举å'¢ï¼Œè¿˜æ˜¯å¦æœ‰å…¶æ„ï¼Ÿ æˆ'个人认为是后者。 如果是后者，就åº"该把意思表达确切，而非ç"Ÿæ¬ç¡¬å¥—。 不如问问看看developer们怎么说。

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  <!--quoteo(post=1956103:date=Aug 3 2012, 04:38 AM:name=axamdeep)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (axamdeep @ Aug 3 2012, 04:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1956103"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->你想一想，就算没有banner提示（即屏幕正上方的文字提示） ， 只要不是色盲 ，肯定能通过minimap下方的闪烁红字来得知 å½"前没有指挥官，因为存在指挥官时字ä½"是黄色的， ç"±é»„变红，就像交通信号灯一样，很容æ˜"引起人们的注意。

  UWE 在 banner 中加入 no commander 的信息作为强调，是多此一举å'¢ï¼Œè¿˜æ˜¯å¦æœ‰å…¶æ„ï¼Ÿ æˆ'个人认为是后者。 如果是后者，就åº"该把意思表达确切，而非ç"Ÿæ¬ç¡¬å¥—。 不如问问看看developer们怎么说。<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  不一定,有的时候真的会看不到, 人的主要视è§'是正前方60~度, 别的都是附加视è§'. 战斗中时大è„'都会先处理那里的信息. banner çš„ç"¨é€"(æˆ'认为) 是要把UI中一些不太明显的信息置中,不必太大修æ"¹.

  PS æˆ'都玩NS1 2~3年了算是有点经验吧?

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  增加了一个超连ç»"从翻è¯'页面到这里

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=1956887:date=Aug 4 2012, 03:40 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 4 2012, 03:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1956887"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->增加了一个超连ç»"从翻è¯'页面到这里<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  好样的，æˆ'看好ä½

• axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

  计åˆ'在9月14日之前把汉化条目推进到90%以上

• twiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116 Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue

  Hi! I have translated a few more strings. Is anyone else still working on them?
  大家好！æˆ'帮助翻è¯'了几句。还有人有空在翻吗？

• nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

  to be honest I am slightly disappointed, The translation thing seems to be...worthless?
  A Huge part of the game uses character set/encoding that doesn't not support simplify/traditional chinese.
  I found this out after I started translating as well.

  So I guess those 2 translation is on hold for now until we get some good news.

• twiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116 Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue

  <!--quoteo(post=2017075:date=Nov 10 2012, 03:10 AM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Nov 10 2012, 03:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2017075"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->to be honest I am slightly disappointed, The translation thing seems to be...worthless?
  A Huge part of the game uses character set/encoding that doesn't not support simplify/traditional chinese.
  I found this out after I started translating as well.

  So I guess those 2 translation is on hold for now until we get some good news.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  Awww that is too bad. I don't have much experience with text encoding at all, so I'll have to take your words.

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